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Throttles

Postby 48v » 15 Feb 2018, 18:54

Hi everyone

I’m just off an AA lorry because of a snapped throttle cable. Is it wise/necessary to replace the pair or just the broken one?

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Re: Throttles

Postby Uncle Phil » 15 Feb 2018, 19:23

Since they appear to be reasonable in price, I would change both of them while I was in there. In reality, you should only have to change one, but if one broke, the other probably is not far behind.

17910-MT3-000 Throttle Cable A

17920-MT3-000 Throttle Cable B

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Re: Throttles

Postby 48v » 15 Feb 2018, 19:26

Uncle Phil wrote:Since they appear to be reasonable in price, I would change both of them while I was in there. In reality, you should only have to change one, but if one broke, the other probably is not far behind.

17910-MT3-000 Throttle Cable A

17920-MT3-000 Throttle Cable B

Part numbers are for a 1999 ST1100.


As ever Uncle Phil I will bow to your great experience and will change both. :-)
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Throttles

Postby 48v » 21 Feb 2018, 20:12

Heeeelllllpppp

I’ve replaced both cables and everything was going fine until I dropped the deceleration lower nut. You know the thing that holds the two cables - push and pull ‘wheel’, it has two screws, one larger and a smaller lower one which I have dropped. I’ve done a bit of a search for an exploded parts diagram and maybe I’m being stupid but I can’t find where it would be.

Does anyone know the size of screw or if there is anything particularly spectatcular about the screw....does it have to be weapons grade strength?

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Re: Throttles

Postby Uncle Phil » 21 Feb 2018, 20:57

I'm with you - I've searched the fiche that I have and cannot find a view that has those parts. My guess is either 5mm or a 4mm of some sort.
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Re: Throttles

Postby 48v » 21 Feb 2018, 21:11

Thanks for check UP, it’s pita not to be able to find dimensions. I think you’re probably right 4mm seems about right by about 12 or 15 deep.
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Re: Throttles

Postby Uncle Phil » 22 Feb 2018, 00:02

The closest I can find is on the Carburetor fiche. There's a little 'butterfly' bracket on the left side that could be it. It takes 2 5x12 pan heads, part number 93500-05012-1A on a 97 model. You might see if that is it.
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Re: Throttles

Postby alans1100 » 22 Feb 2018, 00:40

Uncle Phil wrote:The closest I can find is on the Carburetor fiche. There's a little 'butterfly' bracket on the left side that could be it. It takes 2 5x12 pan heads, part number 93500-05012-1A on a 97 model. You might see if that is it.
I can't even see that when I looked in my 99 fiche. Strange the throttle cable connection doesn't appear to be anywhere.
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Re: Throttles

Postby 48v » 22 Feb 2018, 01:26

alans1100 wrote:
Uncle Phil wrote:The closest I can find is on the Carburetor fiche. There's a little 'butterfly' bracket on the left side that could be it. It takes 2 5x12 pan heads, part number 93500-05012-1A on a 97 model. You might see if that is it.
I can't even see that when I looked in my 99 fiche. Strange the throttle cable connection doesn't appear to be anywhere.


It’s really odd, as if it doesn’t really exist.

I remember some years ago I asked for help working out how to loosen the twist grip so that I could swap the stock one for the police right hand and was told about this sneaky little thing you could do and I tried to find it in a Haynes manual then and while it’s shown there doesn’t seem to be any reference to sizes of screws or anything other than calling it a decelerator.

If I get really bamboozled I’ll call Lyngs or David Silver and ask them for details of sizing.
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Re: Throttles

Postby alans1100 » 22 Feb 2018, 03:23

I just sent a query to https://www.facebook.com/Honda.Pan.European/ as he set up http://www.st-1100.com/index.html which is where I get all my part numbers from.
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