2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

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2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby alans1100 » 26 Jun 2017, 07:09

Just after getting back home from Port Pirie a few weeks ago I noticed the bike's speedo wasn't working

I ordered a new cable which arrived this morning and while doing the new screen decided to fit this as well.

The old cable was removed and unlike the new one wouldn't turn inside the cable housing. I can't work that one out yet but I decided to check the cable drive gear and that too wasn't turning.

All I can conclude is that somehow the cable stopped turning and caused the teeth on speedo gear dive to fail. When I do a front tyre change over I normally give the inside of the speedo drive gear housing a smear of grease before putting it back on the axle.

Now I have to order part number 44800-ML7-691 which is around the $AUD105 mark. New cable is installed

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but until I can get the other part ordered and paid for I will still need to use this one on my phone when I need to leave our home town.

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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby Pieter Huizinga » 26 Jun 2017, 11:11

Ouch, a hundred dollars... :shock:
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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby mbrST1100 » 26 Jun 2017, 15:17

Use some marine grease on those gears on any occasion the wheel comes off, but don't overfill either, as this could also damage the plastic toothing.
Ensure proper alignment of the stainless pickup (behind the seal) and the notches of the gear when inserting it into the seal on the rim.

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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby alans1100 » 26 Jun 2017, 17:02

Pieter Huizinga wrote:Ouch, a hundred dollars... :shock:
I checked the pricing on one of our online Honda dealers, Partzilla (US) and I found one on eBay (US) and after taking into account the exchange rate there's only about dollar or two difference between local and US prices. I'll call the dealer in Port Augusta and find out how long it'll take to get the part in - might have to come from Japan.
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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby alans1100 » 28 Jun 2017, 03:58

After a little exploring in the guts of the speedo drive gear the cost of fixing will be somewhat less; $AUD25 says the dealer I go through at Port Augusta. Put it all back together so I can still use the bike in the meantime.

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The rest of the housing and included worm drive for the gear is ok

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The gear retainer on the wheel looks ok as far as I can tell though the focus isn't the best.

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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby mbrST1100 » 28 Jun 2017, 05:03

alans1100 wrote:After a little exploring in the guts of the speedo drive gear the cost of fixing will be somewhat less...

The parts are looking pretty dry there...
Refer to above procedure when installing the replacement.



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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby alans1100 » 14 Jul 2017, 07:32

The doc wanted me to have one of those bone scan things done and the appointment was for today. I rang the bike shop on Tuesday to find out if the parts I needed had arrived; they had and I advised that I'd pick them up today since I would be halfway there because of the medical appointment at Booleroo Centre.

Total cost $AUD36 - They should get fitted If the rain stays away over the weekend.

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And the seal for oil cap

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Re: 2017-06-26 Failed Speedo Drive and Cable

Postby alans1100 » 15 Jul 2017, 08:08

Worked on getting the new drive gear installed this afternoon.

Cleaned out the housing to remove as much as I could of the old grease and covered the internals with some high temp CV joint wheel bearing grease.

Made sure everything worked as it should before securing wheel in place. Moved the bike from the back yard to the front yard via the side gate access to the road; speedo indicated up to about 20 k/h.

Removed the oil cap and the old O ring just sat on the cam cover which made it an easy fix to insert the new one in place. Can't complain after 200,000 km.
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