Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby David W » 30 Nov 2014, 00:56

Baldeagle wrote:I'll charge the Motobatt battery tomorrow night (Sunday), and check it on Monday after it has sat for a while (1 hour minimum). Bill
In the meantime, we have found an alternate possibility for your high running voltage: the wiring for your regulator/rectifier. In particular, the green ground (or earth) wire that comes from your wiring harness and attaches to the right-hand mounting hole of your stock, OEM voltage regulator/rectifier (VRR) must cleanly mate with the metal ring around that mounting hole so that your VRR is properly "grounded".
Please see the tail end of your old thread "Battery Voltage" for details.

(As a later check, the wiring harness or loom must also be cleanly grounded to the frame; that occurs under or just behind the base of the handle for lifting the Pan onto its centre stand; it is another green wire of the same type. The paint on the frame must be removed there to expose clean steel for the ring to mate to.)
'Tis not its looks, but how it cooks.
And I've found that most liter size Pans, when warmed up, cook well.
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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby Baldeagle » 30 Nov 2014, 11:41

Thanks for that Dave. I'll check those out.

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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby David W » 01 Dec 2014, 03:54

Bill, I hope you first noted the battery's voltage before you started charging it. (That will be a useful reference number to compare after the battery has been charged and has sat a while, as discussed.)
'Tis not its looks, but how it cooks.
And I've found that most liter size Pans, when warmed up, cook well.
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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby Baldeagle » 01 Dec 2014, 11:42

I did note the voltage before charging and it was 12.54 volts.
It has been taken off charge this morning(10:15am Local) after being on charge since 12:15 on the Sunday afternoon.
The voltage when taken immediately after disconneting the charger was 14.05 volts.
I'll leave it until Tuesday morning and check the voltage again.

The Earth wires from the regulator/rectifier were connected to a known good earth (problem remained) :(
The loom earth wire was done likewise, same result as above. :(

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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby David W » 03 Dec 2014, 03:56

The main wiring check is to make sure that the green wire with the ring connector mates well with the silvery ring that surrounds the right-hand mounting hole of the VRR. The mounting bolt should hold those two rings mated together.
'Tis not its looks, but how it cooks.
And I've found that most liter size Pans, when warmed up, cook well.
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Re: Battery Basics for the Gel case (if there really is one)

Postby David W » 05 Dec 2014, 03:56

Baldeagle wrote:... The Earth wires from the regulator/rectifier were connected to a known good earth (problem remained) :(
The loom earth wire was done likewise, same result as above. :( Bill
Just to double check: The ground terminal on the VRR is the silver, metal ring on the VRR and around its right-hand mounting hole. There is only one earth wire for the VRR, and it is green with a brass "ring" connector. It must mate with the ground terminal of the VRR. None of the wires or terminals at the bottom of the VRR should ever be grounded; if found to be grounded, something is wrong.
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And I've found that most liter size Pans, when warmed up, cook well.
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