If you please, what are these? What is known of parts shown?

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If you please, what are these? What is known of parts shown?

Postby David W » 03 Jun 2014, 23:27

Quiz time.
I am 95% sure they are parts from a 1993 USA ST1100, which is equivalent to a plain Pan P model, where P is a year code.

In the next two photos, the first of the two parts is the white and tan part at the lower right, which is at the end of a black hose from the handle pipe or bar.
Is it a "clutch slave cylinder piston" and/or part of the "clutch cover assembly" ?

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In the second photo below, the second of the two mystery parts is the silvery part, with many holes in it, below the silvery valve cover, to the left of the coils.

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Postby John OoSTerhuis » 04 Jun 2014, 01:52

ST1100 clutch and rear brake assemblies. Dunno what the silver object in the third image is.

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Postby alans1100 » 04 Jun 2014, 04:42

The part in the third picture looks awfully like the rear ABS Modulator on my bike.

RH image in link for 96 or 1100AT. Same part for all following ABS/CBS/TCS models

http://www.st-1100.com/st1100-parts-fic ... 100at.html
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Postby mbrST1100 » 04 Jun 2014, 07:53

+1 on the clutch slave cylinder and the second thing is the oil pump... quite a debris field there though...
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Re: If you please, what are these? What is known of parts sh

Postby David W » 04 Jun 2014, 18:01

mbrST1100 wrote:... the second thing is the oil pump...

So this is a Pan/ST1100 oil pump? (I've never had the pleasure of meeting one of those.)
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mbrST1100 wrote:... quite a debris field there though...

That is in the state of Wyoming, USA, sometimes known as Cowboy Land, after a rough winter. [Edit: Make that Montana, USA, which generally has even harder winters than Wyoming, USA.] It is some 50 miles (80 km?) from that spot in a breaker's field to the nearest town of size.
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Postby mbrST1100 » 04 Jun 2014, 18:17

David W wrote:So this is a Pan/ST1100 oil pump? (I've never had the pleasure of meeting one of those.)

Me either, but the thing on the fiche (original mounting position, loc #4) looks pretty much like it
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plus there is also one at Ebay right now ;)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/lpumpe-Honda-ST1 ... 1066778405

That is in the state of Wyoming, USA, sometimes known as Cowboy Land, after a rough winter.

Like here in the Alps where the retrieving snow exposes the carcasses of whatever didn't make it through the winter? ;)

It is some 50 miles (80 km?) from that spot in a breaker's field to the nearest town of size.

Still odd that they leave them parts out in the open to rot...
I wouldn't buy anything that has been left in the humid grass/soil to rust for unknown periods...
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Postby David W » 18 Jul 2014, 02:44

mbrST1100 wrote:
David W wrote:So this is a Pan/ST1100 oil pump? ...
... the thing on the fiche (original mounting position, location #4) looks pretty much like it ...
plus there is also one at Ebay right now ;)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/lpumpe-Honda-ST1 ... 1066778405 ...

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Now, does BBB stand for Big, Buttery, British biscuit, or Big, Buttery, Bavarian biscuit? (It probably stands for the latter since he is located in Austria.)
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The other part shown was correctly and promptly identified by member JO in Iowa, USA as a clutch assembly.
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Postby mbrST1100 » 20 Jul 2014, 08:53

Yeah...right... for the king and the country, and the promise of glory... ;)

And not much Bavarian cuisine here... except for imported Weissbier and Weisswurst maybe... both I'm not too keen off... ;)
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Postby David W » 20 Sep 2014, 22:06

David W wrote:It is some 50 miles (80 km?) from that spot in a breaker's field to the nearest town of size.

mbrST1100 wrote:Still odd that they leave them parts out in the open to rot...
I wouldn't buy anything that has been left in the humid grass/soil to rust for unknown periods...

I went ahead and bought most of those parts.
It is not every day that someone in the USA contacts me and offers to sell Pan/ST1100 by the box.
(I will post here if some of the parts I received are rusty or rotted.)
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