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New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Pieter Huizinga » 03 May 2017, 16:53

I've decided that I am totally done with Garmin's lousy software and ordered a TomTom Rider 450.
I'm taking delivery of it this week. Will follow up here.

Wish me luck with the learning curve. ;)
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Andi Archer » 08 May 2017, 22:42

So you have gone with the dark side eh Pieter! :D
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby alans1100 » 09 May 2017, 09:44

It looks like it has the same software as my car's Go 600 though the bike one has end of trip log details and can Bluetooth to a helmet intercom if you have one.

https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/sat-nav/mo ... e-sat-nav/

We have the 400 version available here and it looks the same as the 450 https://www.tomtom.com/en_au/drive/motorcycle/
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Andi Archer » 09 May 2017, 11:33

I believe the 400 has recived poor reviews for issues of screen operation in the rain i.e. with droplets on the screen it either doesnt work or changes screen at random
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby alans1100 » 09 May 2017, 15:48

Andi Archer wrote:I believe the 400 has recived poor reviews for issues of screen operation in the rain i.e. with droplets on the screen it either doesnt work or changes screen at random
Might not be much of a problem in most areas over here.

I prefer the larger 6 inch screen that the car sat nav has as I can read it easier.
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Andi Archer » 09 May 2017, 16:36

Yes we have been discussing the use of waterproof tablets like the Samsung Galaxy Tab Active SM-T365 or even mobile phones over on the adventure forum.A couple of apps suggested are osmand+ and calimoto

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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby alans1100 » 10 May 2017, 01:12

I have the Samsung S5 phone which they say is waterproof but I wouldn't want to put it to the test.

As a sat nav using Google maps it seems ok for the couple of times I have tested it but the phone needs contact with a phone tower to update maps every so often and out here that doesn't happen outside of the major population areas.
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Andi Archer » 10 May 2017, 08:03

Im not sure about Google maps but the other two I mentioned have downloadable mapping,Re charging a mention has been made of using a wireless charging pad [1.5 - 2 amps] on the holder for those newer mobiles that support it,for those that dont you can purchase a reciever pad that plugs in the USB of your device and mounts flat against the back.
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http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/w ... e.1102457/

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https://www.adventurebikerider.com/foru ... tion-.html

EDIT Off-line Google maps but one site I looked at [2nd link] mentions a 29 day limit before it auto deletes
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/ ... roid&hl=en
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobil ... e-3629702/
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby Pieter Huizinga » 10 May 2017, 08:44

Well, I took delivery of the Rider 450 this weekend and spent a couple of hours placing the mount on the bike and setting up the bluetooth connections. I had paired my phone to the rider and the rider to the headset. That worked as expected. But when I tried to pair the phone to the headset too (in order to stream music from my phone), the connection between the rider and the headset was lost. No matter what I tried I couldn't make it work.

Sent an email to my good friend Hans (aka Mr. GPS) who gave me the golden tip. Removed all pairing settings and then
- paired the phone to the headset using A2DP protocol only (to stream music)
- paired the rider to the headset using HTP protocol only (for navigation and handsfree calling)
- paired the phone to the rider to take handsfree calls
- paired the two headsets to one another for intercom and sharing music.

This turned out to work very well, so I thought I'd share the info with y'all.

As for riding in the rain, I haven't had time to ride with the rider at all yet. What I do like in particular is that you can have it plot a roundtrip, and indicate how curvy you'd like that as well as how 'mountaineous' (that last bit is pretty useless in the low lands here though). You have the same options for a route from A to B, if you prefer that over the fastest route. This feature sure should appeal to recreational riders.

I didn't buy the car mount as I use Karen's old TomTom in that. But I'm tempted to get it so we can take out the cabrio for a nice curvy ride too if we don't feel like taking the bike out. (Yes I know).

The rider came with an extensive video course from Mr GPS at a 50% discount, plus a three month license to try out an alternative routeplanner on the internet (EDIT: MyRouteapp Gold, www.myrouteapp.com/go). The rider does come with a free license to TomTom's own routeplanner (myroute.tomtom.com).

Oh and all licenses are lifetime licenses, so no annual charges.

It looks like we're going to get along just fine. :mrgreen: but the proof of the pudding still has to be eaten.
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Re: New GPS - TomTom Rider 450

Postby alans1100 » 10 May 2017, 09:09

Andi Archer wrote:
EDIT Off-line Google maps but one site I looked at [2nd link] mentions a 29 day limit before it auto deletes
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/ ... roid&hl=en
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobil ... e-3629702/



I tried the off line maps option which allows for times when you might lose a phone signal but veering of the route in that situation causes the navigation to cease; at least it did when we tried the phone on a recent trip.

For shortish trips the phone would do but e.g. for intercity trips a dedicated sat nav or an off line navigation app would be better.
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