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Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby mbrST1100 » 16 Feb 2013, 02:08

Un_F_believeable... dumb as a log :roll:

check out the police cruiser CCTV footage first:

http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=e49dfece8b3a

And you will believe the outcome of this even less:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf3_1360862664
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby Gareth R » 16 Feb 2013, 09:53

Whats really your bind - the iffy driving or the payout?
What's the law on mobile use whilst driving in the US? The footage doesnt suggest she is any sort of threat and the cop sees fit to drop her face on the road. Subtle, not.
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby alans1100 » 16 Feb 2013, 10:24

nothing unusual...see this overkill quite often the COPS TV show........some maybe justified.........most isn't.

And really 6 guys to handle one female. And even under their laws since when is a mere traffic violation even considered a felony (crime) where sometimes extra force maybe required.

I can imagine the back up radio call......."send us help we have one pregnant female here who refuses to get on the ground''

Maybe the land of the free isn't so free after-all
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby Keith Legge » 16 Feb 2013, 10:32

To serve and protect we call them thugs over here. :roll:
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby kep-upc1 » 16 Feb 2013, 13:12

Ever since 9/11 when "homeland security" started, we the people decided that it was better to have safety than to have freedom. Once "we the people" allowed it to start, the various governments and their agencies have been whittling away at our freedoms a wee bit at a time ever since. If y'all look at it from this angle, perhaps you can understand why those of us who have been around for more than one generation and can remember when we actually had more freedom, don't wnat any more gun laws enacted.

Give 'em an inch, and they'll take a foot; for now. But they'll grab a yard soon, and then a mile, until they have taken it all.
And another of our personal freedoms is gone.
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby Paul Lingard » 16 Feb 2013, 13:26

Couple of questions, what did she say to the officers, what was in the car, what's her previous?
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby Andi Archer » 16 Feb 2013, 13:26

I'm surprised the officer didn't tazer her it seems the frequent weapon of choice at the moment for non compliance even when you don't understand or just don't disagree with whats being said or done either legally or not.
Even so it a very large payout considering it appears to be basically an assault I would have thought a lower payout and a disciplinary for the officers might be the order of the day.
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby Andi Archer » 16 Feb 2013, 13:33

Whilst not the best paper to quote heres the article from the Huffington Post

LOS ANGELES -- When Tamara Gaglione was stopped on the side of a freeway for talking on her cellphone, she had no idea she'd end up hogtied and lying face down in the back of a police car.

But that's exactly what happened to the 30-year-old woman, 2 months pregnant at the time. When California Highway Patrol officers pulled her over to the side of the 110 highway Aug. 30, 2011, they slammed her to the ground, hogtied her and shoved her in the back of their patrol car.

CLICK HERE OR SCROLL DOWN FOR A STATEMENT FROM CHP.

On the way to the station, she could hear officers discussing video of the encounter candidly, said attorney Howard Price to The Huffington Post. But when Price requested the video as evidence for Gaglione's criminal trial, he was told there was no footage of the incident.

"I went back to them, and I said, 'Look, am I stupid? This involved a chase. There must be a videotape,'" said Price. Eventually the prosecutor handed over footage from a backup officer's camera, which showed nothing.

Finally, he was told the footage existed, but that no one could transfer the data to another medium -- so he had to go to the CHP station himself to view it. Price made sure to record the footage for himself, and he uploaded the shocking video to YouTube.

"What you see is a second generation of the original being played for me," Price explained to HuffPost.

WATCH: (warning, footage might be disturbing to some)


The 8-minute video begins with officers trying to apprehend Gaglione for talking on her cellphone. Gaglione weaves back and forth between lanes, trying to stop at one shoulder, then another, before finally settling on the right side of the highway. Price explains on his site, "After first stopping on the right shoulder, she was ordered to not stop there, to go forward and get off freeway [sic]. Because of rush hour traffic noise, she did not hear clearly what she was directed to do."

Once Gaglione stops her car, officers order her to get out and turn around. Gaglione appears not to comply with the final order, and instead stands still with her hands up. Then, at minute 3:52, two officers quickly approach her, slam her to the ground and proceed to handcuff her. Throughout, one officer appears to keep one knee on top of the upper part of her body (Price claims it was her neck). The officer also uses his other knee to kick her in the side at least once. Finally, four more officers arrive and surround Gaglione as her legs are tied.

The Los Angeles Times, who first reported on the case, note that one of the officers admitted in his report that Gaglione told him she was pregnant, but he insists it was only after she was on the ground. Price maintains that it was one of the first things out of Gaglione's mouth when she first got out of the car.

After the violent encounter, Gaglione was initially charged with misdemeanor evading and resisting arrest and driving on a suspended license, according to the Times. But once Price got a hold of the footage, the charges were eventually dropped and Gaglione instead pleaded "no contest" to an infraction -- using her cellphone while driving. The $20 fee for the infraction was also suspended.

Gaglione's criminal case was resolved March 12, 2012, the same month that Gaglione's son was born. In April, Price filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the CHP on Gaglione's behalf.

CHP quickly resolved the suit in August, and Price notes on his site that the damages were settled without "any depositions taken by either side" -- probably because the CHP knew that the video would be admitted into evidence, guessed Price. Gaglione received the check by Christmas time.

Now that the settlement check has been cut, Price is on a mission to make sure the CHP officers involved in Gaglione's case are appropriately disciplined. On behalf of Gaglione, Price filed an internal affairs complaint a few days ago against the men, who are still on the force.

"Yes, we want these officers to be investigated and hopefully disciplined," Price told HuffPost. "It's pretty outrageous conduct."

The Times notes that Gaglione is still traumatized by the violent incident.

"I will always be scared of police officers because of these knuckleheads," she said to the Times. Gaglione moved away from Los Angeles after the encounter, and now lives in Pennsylvania with her parents and infant son, Price said to HuffPost. The baby does not appear to be affected by the trauma Gaglione suffered, Price added.

CHP did not return a request for comment before this story's publish time. The entry will be updated if they respond.

UPDATE: The California Highway Patrol sent HuffPost this statement on Tamara Gaglione's settlement:

The parties agreed the settlement was the best way to conclude this matter.

The CHP conducted a review of the tactics and, as necessary, took appropriate action. By law, we cannot comment further on matters involving personnel issues.
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby mbrST1100 » 16 Feb 2013, 16:21

Gareth R wrote:Whats really your bind - the iffy driving or the payout?

Ey, check the footage:
first the as you put it iffy driving (and who knows what she'd performed prior to the footage to trigger those LEOs attention), then she's pretending to pull over for quite some time without actually stopping, to the suddenly changing her mind and actually trying outrun the cruiser (in rush hour...), performing more reckless driving...
(on such actions even our totally softened police here would call for backup and corner you with like 2~3 cars, getting you booked, detailed vehicle search, etc...)

With all due respect, but that bra is simply bat shit crazy. What exactly did she expect will happen when first teasing them and then trying to outrun the police crew??? Seriously?

Under the given circumstances the LEOs must assume either a DUI case or trying to run over some crime committed... especially if the person does then not respond when talked to...

To pull over right away, stay calm (and polite!) is just common sense...


But sueing the law enforcement is the new fashion...
Same here, an offender commits serious shoplifting, break in or rips the purse off an old lady, once finally cornered by the foot-patrol he attacks them, kicking, knive, whatever while screaming for help (huh?!) to then slam his head against a house wall so he can later claim that the police did it... and when the crew then finally arrives at the station to book and process him, some 'human rights' lawyer is already awaiting them, so he doesn't even see a cell from the inside and walks right out instead... WTF...
These days the officers can't even ask someone for his ID anymore without raising some serious trouble and a media hype to follow...
And the peoples attitute towards 'authorities' is TOTALLY off...
Once observed a scene where a police cruiser stopped a lady-driver for darting over a pedestrian Xing, nearly running someone over.
To top it this chick jumped out her car to scream to them cops 'HOW CAN YOU DARE TO STOP ME...'
And I simply adored the patience of the crew to still debate with her there, instead of slamming her on the hood, cuff and book her for a) endangering driving with potential vehicle manslaughter and b) resistance against the state...
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Re: Playing dumb and stupid pays off...

Postby kep-upc1 » 16 Feb 2013, 17:10

....."resistance against the state.....". Never want to do that, now would we? (tongue in cheek)
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